it was great to meet and train with you in KL. Your artwork is clear and professional. Very nice.

Our Dear Friend Andy

It was our great pleasure and fortune to learn your fang-song and spiral

power at work in your spinning hands in KL. A joy to behold and observed how you work with others as well. We wished you could open a school in Monterey, Calif.. USA here we come!

Now my question...The third Chinese character on the right column on your poster is not the same as on the cover of Sifu Chin's books and T-shirt on my chest. Is this another version of I Liq Chuan say (I saw this same wording as your poster on other picture that was taking outside of USA)? If their meaning is the same then by what means to change it? Monkey mind? Why not pay attention on one? two of the same is double weighted, is not?

The Less the More....is a fine art. (I was told)

Your art form in Spinnign hands is something to behold.

Ciao with love

Martha and lim

hey lim, glad to see you're still training our wonderful art!

諧 and 協 are two different ways of writing essentially the same word. it's the same pronunciation for both (xié) and means essentially the same thing. 

MDGB translates 協 as "harmonize" and 諧 as "harmonious" 

協調 is a phrase used together meaning "to coordinate" or "to harmonize".

I've seen 協 used in some of the older t shirts and sweatshirts.

 力則協調非有非無 basically translates as "force should be coordinated with the conditions recognized through awareness (present, formless and neutral)".

非有非無 literally translates as "not having, not without".  in other words not having (anything in mind), (yet) not without (the ability to act).

the whole second line 力則協調非有非無以合時空之無常 basically says "act on the conditions and not on habit because time and space are always changing".

"hey lim, glad to see you're still training our wonderful art! Co"

HI ASHE,

IT IS ALWAYS NICE TO HEAR FROM YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR KIND THOUGHT OF CONFIDENCE.

YES, WE ARE STILL TRAINING THE WONDERFUL ART OF ILC SINCE WE FIRST MET ABOUT 6 MONTHS AGO AT YOUR ARIZ. SPRING WORKSHOP. WE HAVE BEEN SPRUNG AROUND TO OAKLAND,CA. AFTER THAT FOR ANOTHER SIFU'S WONDERFUL TEACHING. THEN WE SPRUNG FAR AND WILD TO MALAYSIA TO PAY OUR PILGRIMAGE TO THE FOUNDING FATHER OF THIS WONDERFUL ART FOR 7 DAYS WORKSHOP! AND NOW WE SHALL SPRING BACK TO YOUR ARIZ. SCHOOL ON 10/8-10/10, THIS COMING WEEKEND FOR A 'SECOND' OF THIS WONDERFUL ART JUST TO COMPLETE THE CIRCLE OF OUR TRAINING IN HALF YEAR STARTED WITH YOU. YOU COULDN'T HAVE PICKED A BETTER DATE THAN 10/10. THAT IS A BIG DAY FOR CHINESE'S "DOUBLE TEN" (++= THE BIRTHDAY OF REPUBLIC OF CHINA)). IT IS ALSO A BIG DEAL FOR OUR WONDERFUL ART..A CROSS WITH A CROSS..BUT MUST BE MINDFUL IT IS NOT A 'DOUBLE-CROSS'. JUST FOR GOOD MEASURE WE ARE PLANNING TO GO TO THE CALIFORNIA WORKSHOP IN THE FALL. THE LAST WORKSHOP LISTED OF THIS YEAR IN USA-THE HEADQUARTER . THIS WILL COMPLETED OUR FIRST ILC TRAINING CIRCLE WITH THE CENTER (SIFU CHIN)IN THE LAST 6 MONTHS. THEN WE, THE SEPTUAGENARIANS WILL FALL BACK TO OUR RETIREMENT AS IT SHOULD BE. AND LET YOU YOUNG BUCKS GO STOP THE TRAIN.

OH SAY CAN YOU SEE.YES,WE MARTHA AND LIM,THE SEPTUAGENARIANS STILL TRAINING OUR WONDERFUL ART OF ILIQCHUAN.THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ASKING.

DO YOU GIVE DISCOUNT TO THE RANKING SEPTUAGENARIANS? THERE IS A POSSIBILITY THAT OUR SOCIAL SECURITY CHECK MIGHT GET RUN OVER BY THE RAIN DEARS IN THE WINTER MONTHS IN OUR GOLDEN YEARSS.

CIAO WITH LOVE AND TIN-CAN

MARTHA AND LIM