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a few reminders:

1. Do not drill mindlessly.  Remember how to approach learning.  If you are not paying attention, you are not learning I Liq Chuan.

2. Stop at neutral point, i.e. square yourself before every transition.  Every exercise has an open and close.  If you don't see it, look into it until you do see it.

3. Recognzie the relationships between the absorb and project, open and close & condense and expand, and the plane you are moving in.

4. Work on your hip rolls and stepping.

 

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Hi Dmitry, I have a question

Hi Dmitry,


I have a question that came out of the seminar. On the exercise for the horizontal plane we have the grinding that uses the 8 cycles but there is also the thumb and pinky drill. My understanding of why the grinding is considered horizontal is because the elbow and wrist are working in the same plane, correct? Because if they are not then we end up mixing other planes with it such as sagital and frontal. 

Is it the same elbow and wrist relation that is working on the thumb and pinky drill for horizontal, in that, the wrist needs to stay above the elbow (kind of a parallel relationship to one another). Also does the thumb and pinky drill show that horizontal can work or is any motion that moves from left to right or right to left and also forward and back and anything else in motion, as long as the motion, its self, is parallel to the ground?

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Horizontal plane exercises

 

 

Hi Jose,

The reason horizontal grinding is considered horizontal is because you are generating horizontal energy, i.e. forward, backward, side to side. One of the reasons the forearm is kept horizontal is to keep the opponent from "slipping" under or away from below the horizontal plane, i.e. tai chi point on contact.  For example, when working a sagittal plane, the wrist and elbow are not on the same plane, but it is still a sagittal movement, i.e. forward backward, up and down.  In the horizontal exercise with forearm in a vertical position, the force is still coordinated with the opening and closing of the kwa in the horizontal plane.  The pinky and the thumb align with tan tien and ming man for absorbing and projecting.

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Dmitry, Thanks for the

Dmitry,

Thanks for the response and also thanks for providing a fun and exciting seminar. Looking forward to the second half!!!

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hey jose, nice to see you

hey jose, nice to see you posting on the forum!  

excellent answers D! sounds like you're doing a great job in NY. Cool

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All of this is a lot for me

All of this is a lot for me to absorbe, though I truly know I must learn how to be Present in Every Moment of my life. I feel that I Liq Chuan and your classes are the key to that Awareness, So I must not give up. Smiling

I am sorry I missed your class last night. I heard it was really Great! Smiling

I will see you on wednesday and Can't wait for the rest of the workshop this weekend!

Thanks Dmitry for Everything!

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I am enjoying the

I am enjoying the level1&2work shop very much it has helped me see and understand the basic exercises much more clearly,he is clear and Dmitry is an exceptional teacher he is clear and concise am hoping to do many more workshop,s with him      Ed Hathaway

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Congratulations

 

Congratulations to everyone who participated in the Certification Intensive and made it out alive!

We had 25 students who worked very hard, most of whom showed up not only for the required intensive hours but also for the makeup sessions on Sundays, accumulating over 30 hours of training.

Congratulations to the 8 students who have successfully passed the rigorous examination for Level 1 under the panel of examiners consisting of Master Sam F.S. Chin, Daria Sergeeva, Richard Vespa, and Rosalie Vespa.

A Special thank you to senior I Liq Chuan instructors Wai Tang, for helping to assist the class on Saturday, Rosalie and Richard Vespa for traveling so far and coming to support this effort, Daria Sergeeva for all your invaluable help, and of course, Master Sam F.S. Chin, who made this certification possible in every respect.

 

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Wow, what an intense

Wow, what an intense weekend!! Almost felt like my head was going to explode Surprised

Thank you Sigong and family, Dasha, Wai, Rose and Rich for coming and sharing your knowledge & passion for the art with us.

Thank you Dmitry for all your compassionate and clear instructions over the past few months. Smile 

Thank you to all the students who participated over these past two weekends, it is such a pleasure getting to know you all. See you tonight

 

 

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This must have been a great

This must have been a great event.

Congratulations from Austria to Dmitry and all participants.

Miro

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great workshop

It was very interesting four days of intensive training.  Dmitry and all the participants created an atmosphere of positive energy flow which was really helpful in achieving the level of concentration necessary to learn basic principles of the art.

Thank you, Dmitry, for all your effort in organizing this workshop and for your dedication as our instructor.  And of course the second half of Sunday, January 30th with Master Sam F.S. was as always a wonderful opportunity to learn from the great master. Thank you!

A special thank you to Richard and Rosalia Vespa, Wai Tang and Daria Sergeeva for participating in the workshop, and for all your valuable help. And thank you all students! It was a pleasure to practice with you.

 

Hope to see you all soon J

 

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Workshop

This was a fun and exciting 2 weekend seminar providing great personnel attention in understanding the principals in the art of I Liq Chuan. It was a lot of information but on the second half it was amazing how everything came together and clicked. Thank you, Wai-Teng, Daria Segeeva, and Richard and Rosalia Vespa for providing corrections and extra detailed information about the system, history, and proper mechanics. Special thanks to Dmitry, for having this workshop and doing such an excellent job in discussing, showing, and teaching this martial art. 

Most importantly thank you Master Sam F.S. Chin for coming and sharing your knowledge and time with us.

Congrats, to all the students and looking forward to seeing you guys some more!!!! Smile 

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Great!

This was indeed a wonderful workshop: while there was obviously a lot to learn, the structure was clear and the environment was positive and encouraging. And, in the true spirit of the art, the instructor adjusted to the constantly changing needs and questions of the students! Many many thanks to Dmitry for all his hard work and dedication.

I am also grateful to Sigong for his wonderfully patient and good-humored instruction on Sunday, which gave me new insight into the art. Thanks too to Dasha and Wai not only for their lovely presence but the kind help they offered me over the course of the workshop (you are all so patient!).

And: thanks to Carisa for hosting us in her wonderful space at The Living Seed, providing us with unlimited tea and fine celebratory cake!

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Neutral

Not sure if this question would go in here but since it was covered in the seminar, I will give it a try.

When doing alternating convex and concave in the horizontal plane. Does the concave hand have two neutral positions during the transition to convex? Would the arm when the elbow is at a 90 degree angle (forearm parallel to the chest) be in neutral and then when the arm is completely in line with the shoulder, reach true neutral? For some reason I feel like there are two neutral positions in this movement, when coming out of concave.

I do understand that the second neutral is like a "true" neutral position so I do not have to much of a concern with that. But the first one with the elbow bent at a 90 is throwing me off. I feel like this is a very important position to recognize during my transitions.

Thanks for the help

Jose 

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The neutral is about the

The neutral is about the relationship between the point of contact and the center of the joint within a specific plane of motion.  Convex and concave on the other hand is how we define the position of the hand, forearm, etc.

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two neutrals - many neutrals

good question.

movement is circular and circles have centers and the center is the reference point... it is also neutral. so there are as many 'neutrals' as there are circles.

if the topic is 'structure' and want to recognize its limits, the 4 strategies define as neutral the shoulder-hip line and sternum line. study closely the 'mechanism of body movement diagram' in the system guide. 

this is the process of recognizing inside and outside, yin and yang... and of course neutral. to 'make yin OR yang into yan AND yang by maintiaining yin - yang - neutral."

in short, recognizing and maintaining neutral is to maintain the ability to change. taiji energy.

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Thanks Dmitry and Kelley this

Thanks Dmitry and Kelley this all makes sense the way both of you have presented it.

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