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Sam F. S. Chin's talk during Malaysia Workshop 2014, Day 5 (60th birthday)

The opening talk during day 5 (1. August 2014) of Malaysia Workshop by Sam F. S. Chin


A student from the audience calls out: Sifu! Happy Birthday! Grandmaster Sam Chin smiles & replies: thank you!


In Philosophy, Concepts, & Principles, that we already say Nature, as it is, is already there, there is nothing to train. To train is to be able to be with. In order to be with,

that means you must be able to change. That means flow. So we are training to recognize, or we are training how to change. The quality of change. That means the quality of change is the first thing.


So in other words that, the quality of change, to be with, and know the truth. That means to know. That means, is to understand. Everything should come down to the understanding. Knowing. Knowing is the things that you want to know. But the thing is that, the problem is that knowing. How (do) you classify knowing? Knowing. What are you knowing?


So everyone, they say they "know", of course. So the ultimate thing that you want to know is the way things are. Very simple. You want to know, is to know, the way things are. The way things are is as it is. So, in order to flow. In order to change. And to change, in order to flow you must be able to change. So that means everything thing here, see, it comes back to the way things are, to be with it, to be there. Then you can classify as it is the present.


The quality of change. In able to change, you must be in Neutral. The quality is the Neutral. Alright? Of course, there's a lot of conditions how to be Neutral. So then we talk about the present, then we talk about you be (being) there. We talk about clear attentions. All this.


Quality has a Neutral first. Quality as the Neutral in order to change. This is the main, main training, - main training subject. Yes? Now, main training subject…


The main training subject has physical, has a physical Neutral quality at the physical…We talk about, you can say, fullness. Fullness, oneness, is a quality. Is the quality of Neutral as one, as two, as complete. Alright?


So in space, in order to flow, you need to recognize Six Directions & Three Dimensions. When you talk about Six Directions & Three Dimensions, things start from center. Center has a reference. Center of the reference to train Six Directions & Three Dimensions. So on touch, Six Directions, Three Dimensions is the highest point and the furthest point, to the mass. Or you can look at it on the alignment(s) Alright?. ( Sigong's hands move to describe the XYZ center of cross. ) So you have a reference now, on touch. How to feel that it's the highest point to the mass. Because there's two references. That is fullness. That is (the) fullness feeling. In other words, that fullness feeling, that Tai Chi, Tai Chi classifies as the Peng energy. The defense energy. The defense point energy.


So. So, first thing is to recognize the defense point energy as the fullness point. Then from the fullness point, on contact, maintain that point… to do all other movement. That means, maintaining that point of fullness energy as a defense point. All movement is only ( then ) born correctly, in other words. Understand here or not?


( A student responds: No! No & laughs. Sigong continues… ) No? Okay, what do you want to understand? ( The same students says: "Maybe all of it! But I especially don't understand the way you said the highest point… ?" Sigong continues… Of spherical energy. ( Student responds: "Oh! The highest point from the center?" ) Sigong answers: Yes. ( Student says he gets it. ) Sigong: Yes?


That means it's the highest point of the spherical energy, that means there's no gap that you can go in. Alright? So that's why we train, a lot of different ways to train, - meet is one of the qualities of the highest point, No! Not highest point, that means, umm, a defense point. A defense point. You see? When you meet, it's a defense point. Alright? But it's the highest point that needs to have a reference to the mass.


( Same student as before speaks. ) "So, there's like there is a sphere, the center is here, & the highest point is going to be the surface of the sphere…?" Sigong answers: Yes, yes.


That means that, if you are always meeting him at the highest point, that means that he can't go in. He cannot pass through. Yes? When he cannot pass through, that's a defense point itself right there. It's considered a defense already. Yes?


So, that is also a Neutral energy. Because that Neutral energy must come from, - if a Neutral energy, must come from the Six Directions & Three Dimensions to produce that fullness. To produce that defense point. If that defense point is not produced by the Six Directions & Three Dimensions energy, - that is not the furthest point. Now that means that is not the Neutral point. You see? A Neutral point, that means, you also can say the Neutral point… is a junction point. Is a junction point. As a junction point, that means it can go (in) all directions. That means you can change, - in all different directions.

( Student says: "So that means that you have to have the Six Directions & the Three Dimensions already going on in your body when you meet that criteria…" ) Sigong interrupts to say: Yes!! To be that point Alright? To be that point in order to consider the fullness point. To consider the Neutral point. Alright? To consider the Neutral point, then you can look at a lot of things, like, you must meet there. There is the cross point. And the junction point. It's the highest point. It's a pivot point. Alright? But sometimes the pivot point is only on the point of pivot. Understand or not? Then… if it doesn't reference with the mass, that is not the Neutral point. It's just a pivot point. Yes? You see then that's a pivot point, it's not the Neutral point.


So we learn to recognize this fullness. Highest point, as a Neutral point. That can pivot. That can rotate. That's not only, - a pivot point. Alright?


( Question from audience: ) Sigong acknowledges with: "yes?" ( Student speaks. ) "So, in the 'languaging', we are saying there's many Neutrals but the highest point is our Neutral point of reference then. It's the one point that we refer everything back to. But any pivot has a Neutral?"


Sigong says: Yes. Every pivot itself has a Neutral but that point is a pivot point itself. But you must always reference to the mass itself and consider that the Neutral. Like a spider web. Spider web has a lot of crosses, why the spider web in the center, is the center Neutral? I say, spider web builds up all the junction points, right? But the junction, - center, is really the Neutral. Alright? But they have the relationship of this cross, this junction, so (they) get the information too. They have the relationship. But that is not the Neutral line. That's a whole. That's a whole, it's not the Neutral. Yes? That's a whole, it's not the Neutral. So that's why we say one big sphere is made of all the small spheres. Alright?


( Another question from same student ) "Sifu. Do you change the languaging? ( Sigong responds with an immediate "No." ) ( Student continues. ) "Just to emphasize the point… You say the highest point is the Neutral point, is the, you know, is the fullness point, is the junction, is the this, that. Is that to highlight one particular aspect of..." ( Sigong answers. ) One aspect, yes. Alright? But really the Neutral must relate to the mass. Alright? It must relate to the mass.


So only ( with ) this feel of this Neutral, then, all other movement, (is) born correctly. That's why we say sometimes in the language of change they call it the Tai Chi point. They call it the Tai Chi point. It's a balance point. Right? A balance point. A Tai Chi point, a balance point. So when we do Yin you must hold onto the Tai Chi. When we do Yang, you must hold onto the Tai Chi. You see?


Any questions? ( None. )


Alright. So, fullness, on point of contact. Because that's why it's, when it's easier for us to recognize by training Condense and Open to the Yang touch first, but we should have… any touch, any touch. That's why when, when we come to Spinning, we go to Yang, we go to, this angle, this angle, this angle, all these directions. That point itself is the fullness point. You see? That point itself, every point is a fullness point. Alright? So that fullness point, then you can meet. When we use the fullness point we can meet. There's a reference. There's a reference to know. When you meet with the fullness point, with the balance point, where you see the difference. Where you know. But the problem here, I keep on talking about here is that, can your mind be there to see? Alright? If the mind cannot be there to see, it's very hard because the mind keeps on distracting. Running away. Keeps on falling back to the habits. Okay?


So today I will try to go back, try to learn, to talk about Six Energies, Three Dimensions, and the point. Movement of Condense, and Expand, and feel. Alright? Condense. Big, small. Big small. Big, small. Condense and Expand. Movement of reference to the mass. Okay. Then we, then we, at that point we explain a little bit more. At that point, holding on the point how you flow… ( no. ) How you roll and how you pivot.


Transcribed 6/21/2015 by Brian Phillips.